Curse

Jetdoc · Jan 12, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

You neglected to take into account the effect of max weapons when you don't meet the requirements, which effectively halves their damage.

I took a look at that, and if anything the no requirement weapons are very similar to their halved max damage counterparts (I believe that fractions round down).

In other words (no requirement/halved max):

Sword: 8-10 versus 7-11
Axe: 6-12 versus 3-14
Hammer: 11-15 versus 9-17
Bow: 9-13 versus 7-14
Daggers: 3-7 versus 3-7
Spear: 9-13 versus 7-13
Scythe: 8-17 versus 4-20
Wand: 7-11 versus 5-11
Staff: 7-11 versus 5-11

In almost every case, the no requirement weapon is equal to (or IMO better) than the halved max damage weapon. However, no matter what view you take, the comparison to the wintergreen weapon is about the same.

greyf0x_f0x · Jan 12, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

Despite the lack of requirement, wintergreen martial weapons are still influenced by your weapon mastery; you need a attribute level of 12 to deal 100% of that damage. Wands and staves are based on character level instead, so you just have to be level 20 to deal 10 damage with a wintergreen wand.

Savio saves the day! Busting ignorance of forumites everywhere

I'm still glad I picked up the spear, since I love the throwing animation, and it's certainly no worse than any other caster sword or spear ^^

I decided on a sword for my second choice, I'll probably make it into a 20% enchant +5E caster weapon

As for the argument of using the shield, as far as I'm aware, using any 16 armour shield, for which you don't meet the requirement, gives you +8 anyways, so whilst a wintergreen would be no worse, it wouldn't be any better either...

Grais · Jan 12, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Pretty sad that they are no different from peppermint weps aside from the color. They were being sold for 25k and down last night, Kurt the Slow, was offering an extremely RARE perfect wintergreen, thats a wintergreen with a 15^50 insig applied, I knew that guy was not very bright, but this was just hilarious.

carbajac · Jan 12, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54

I got a shield because it's something I'll use and not just sit in my inventory taking up space.

Havre Fras · Jan 12, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Wintergreen Staff because its something I can actually mod and use. The lack of the 20% recharge mod doesn't bother me at all so now its my main staff.

Darksun · Jan 12, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Somehow i got 2 as well (I thought I got everything wrong)
So I wend with a shield & a sword. Simple, classic weapons. right now they are:

14^50 +23hp
20% reduced blind

I love going with my buddies out into Kryta with candy weapons & holiday hats and trying to kill stuff. It's just FUN! =) And it kind of adds replay value to old, easier missions. If they every make holiday armor, That'll be the icing on the cake!

ideologue · Jan 12, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

one advice: don't get the bow. it's a short bow

Skuld · Jan 12, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Axes and shield for my monk, axe because I dislike the sword and everyone else has a spear, plus I have axe mods already

Annoyed at those predictions, the amount of stuff I was 1-off.. >.<

eggs0wn · Jan 12, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Even though I guess one right it only let me get one weapon as oppossed to my earned two. Lol, well I just got a spear.

Edit: Ok right now my spear is +5 Energy. What other mods should I get to make it usable in a real situation?

Firestone · Jan 12, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

try getting a 20% enchant or +30 life... they are cheaper for spear compared to sword // axe

NeHoMaR · Jan 13, 2007, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Could someone confirm if Wintergreen Wand always make 10 damage every hit? (to 60 armor)

B Ephekt · Jan 13, 2007, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Spear (Crippling, -5 energy, +30hp)
Shield (+30hp, +10 vs. Slashing)

For my monk.

arcanemacabre · Jan 13, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50

Eh, I gots me a spear cause I had a spare 20% enchant grip laying around. Plus, ya know, it's cute.

greyf0x_f0x · Jan 13, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Could someone confirm if Wintergreen Wand always make 10 damage every hit? (to 60 armor)

Please read the rest of the thread, your question has been answered

VitisVinifera · Jan 13, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

sword, to make it a +5e/20% enchants dealio

btw what would be a good inscription for this?

Spazzer · Jan 13, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

I got the staff because I'm massochistical and stupid. Of all the wintergreen weapons available, I chose the one that was nerfed.

(lacks the 20% recharge mod and the +10 energy mod)

Ajaala · Jan 13, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Got the shield which i modded with +10 vs slashing and +30hp to use on my monk. Also got a spear but i sold it, heh.

GunnerDude · Jan 13, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spazzer

I got the staff because I'm massochistical and stupid. Of all the wintergreen weapons available, I chose the one that was nerfed.

(lacks the 20% recharge mod and the +10 energy mod)

since when was the staff nerfed? i've seen it always lacked the 20% recharge mod and +10 energy

Spazzer · Jan 13, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnerDude

since when was the staff nerfed? i've seen it always lacked the 20% recharge mod and +10 energy

Yes, I realize that. But, the Wintergreen Staff was introduced yesterday, so I don't see how you could have mistaken the intent of my words.

What I meant is that it is the lowest of the bunch. The nerfed item.

Feel free to try to argue the logic of my words more. But if you want to try to teach me the value of the item I got, don't bother. I will gladly trade you for a wintergreen wand, however.